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This looks like an issue with your hosting provider, which is where the bibtex file is hosted. They seem to use a CDN (content delivery network, essentially a globally distributed cache) and the BibBase server seems to be getting the same result each time it requests your bib file. Yahya Ezzeldin from https://research.seas.ucla.edu/arni/ actually reported the same issue just recently.
> curl -I https://research.seas.ucla.edu/licos/files/2019/08/publicactions_v1.bib
HTTP/2 302
server: openresty
date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 01:40:32 GMT
content-type: image/bib
location: https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/research.seas.ucla.edu/dist/b/22/files/2019/08/publicactions_v1.bib
cache-control: public, max-age=31536000
etag: 1c2adaf15f4bd8d6126f09d2e8e66643
x-cache: BYPASS
x-cache-bypass-reason: Arguments found
If I interpret that max-age for the cache correctly then the problem may solve itself about 9 hours. after your editing. But I'll also look for a way to request bibbase to work around this (there might be ways to force the CDN provider to refetch the latest version).
I think I found it. It https://www.licos.ee.ucla.edu/publications/ right?
Can you help me find the change you made to the bibtex file that you don't see updating on the page? The page has 301 publications, and the bibtex files also contains 301 entries, so it's not obvious what the difference is.
Thanks.
Hi Dhaivat,
Happy to take a look! Can you send me also the URL of the publication page where this bibtex file is used?
Thanks.
It's not yet clear what the path forward looks like with Mendeley. Since private groups seem to continue on, it might be possible to convert your public groups to private groups and still use them as data-source for BibBase. You should also be able to continue to use your library (My Publications) as data source. Details about changes to the API we are using to fetch that data from Mendeley are not yet announced:
I use Mendeley Developer APIs, what do I need to know?
- Mendeley Developer APIs will remain available to our integration partners and apps.
- Some changes to API endpoints should be expected where features are being retired, such as Mendeley Profiles and Public Groups.
- We will communicate changes to our integration partners and app developers as soon as they have been finalised.
In worst case you can always export your data from Mendeley (or even just download the full bibtex file provided by BibBase from your library/group). Once you have that you could import it into Zotero or use the bibtex file directly as data source for BibBase. The latter always gives you the most flexibility and control.
We'll update this thread when we hear more.
Hi Grolimur,
I had a look at the image you sent but can't quite tell what you mean by doctype or what else you might thing is wrong with that screenshot. Or do you mean that appearance of "2019.tex.ids" on the last entry? Could you send me a link to your page so I can dig deeper?
Hi Peter,
Can you point me to the page where you see this happening, then I'll take a look.
Thanks.
Hi Yahya,
When I fetch the URL of your bibtex file I get this redirect response with a cache control line. I can't say for sure, but I suspect that's where things are being cached.
> curl -i <a href="https://research.seas.ucla.edu/arni/files/2019/08/arni_db.bib" class="redactor-autoparser-object">https://research.seas.ucla.edu/arni/files/2019/08/arni_db.bib</a> HTTP/2 302 server: openresty date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:40:45 GMT content-type: image/bib location: <a href="https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/research.seas.ucla.edu/dist/3/23/files/2019/08/arni_db.bib" class="redactor-autoparser-object">https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/research.seas.ucla.edu/dist/3/23/files/2019/08/arni_db.bib</a> cache-control: public, max-age=31536000 etag: 53fac6d6bed1e03f4313341be5aedf76 x-robots-tag: noindex, nofollow x-cache: BYPASS x-cache-bypass-reason: Arguments found
Even after deleting that bibtex file manually from BibBase's cache, the result is still the same, meaning the server that is serving the file (the one that bibbase is redirected to), still serves the cached file when bibbase is requesting it. I assume that is a policy by this host, which seems to be a wordpress provider, can that be?
This issue should resolve itself eventually when the cache of your host expires. Alternatively you could use a different server to host your bibtex file, or sign up for one of our premium plans and store your file on bibbase.org directly, if that's an option for your group.
Hi Oscar,
Thanks for finding out! It seems that we would need to implement a new integration with a different part of their API to make this work as these attachments are not already included in their bibtex format export. Based on what you found this seems possible, but unfortunately our priorities right now need to be on our premium features. After 15 years of free service we finally need to find a way to make BibBase financially sustainable, at least to cover our costs.
Do you think your research group or the Max Planck Institute for Art History would be interested in signing up for one of our premium plans? It would be easier to justify custom development for a paying customer.
Thanks for understanding.
No, it's not currently possible to change the sort-order of groups. You can however use no grouping at all and then sort by year: "&groupby=&sort=year".
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In case it helps, this is the response the bibbase server is currently receiving back from your host:
with these response headers:
You may want to try a different hosting provider for your bibtex file, or you can let BibBase host your bibtex file directly in case one of our premium plans makes sense for your group(s).